Guess I’ll be sticking to Windows 10 then. It’s already hard enough stopping the Windows 10 telemetry. Making the start button linked to some AI will likely break basic functionality of the OS if you disable it.
Due-Ad-7308
I remember when Canonical funded its Unity Desktop partially by allowing its start-menu to double as an Amazon affiliate search tool. People basically rioted. People that *didn’t* use Unity rioted.
This is 1000x worse than that. I hate it and hope the quote is just taken out of context. I haven’t used Windows in years and this idea that regular people searching *THEIR OWN MACHINE* will ping-home to Microsoft and alter their ad-profiles still makes me sick, blech.
InHiding9
I’ll stay on Windows 10 until I die.
knight_set
Satya, my brother in christ I just want a list of applications and a search bar.
How about no. Microsoft can fuck right off with this bullshit.
SignalButterscotch73
Hopefully this is a load of crap. A list is far more useful than an AI for opening software that’s installed. Saying that I still mostly just add shortcuts to my desktop and only use the start menu for the stuff that hardly ever gets used.
Shoehorning AI into everything isn’t the best use for it.
InitialDia
Microsoft is doing their part to support the year of the Linux desktop. Are you?
nothisistoni
Because the last time they removed the start button it worked so well
GlitteringRelease77
How do I know what I have installed?
Stark_Athlon
Microsoft back at trying to mess with the start button I see….
I really, really want to know who is it that keeps suggesting these shits and what the argument is behind it. Is it someone on marketing? Is it an executive?
No way in hell it’s an engineer.
ostrieto17
JFC can someone at Microsoft talk some sense in whoever is making those decisions what the user actually wants?
I’m sure if older OS never became unsupported people would run them because they did what people needed them to do, hell the adage is such for a reason – if it’s not broken, don’t fix it.
notice_me_senpai-
They want windows to become a reason to use a computer instead of a mean to use programs.
I just want windows to launch programs and to just, not more, JUST so what i want and never, ever get in the way. Eg: The search function interrogating bing by default it just garbage to me. I don’t need an AI assistant to launch Premiere Pro or search google map for me. I’m lazy but i’m not that lazy.
That operating system have no value on its own, and i’m not asking for more.
DarkkHawkk
LINUX IS MY LORD AND SAVIOR
jorbal4256
Cool, let’s add “Microsoft Windows” to the list of things that won’t work when the internet is out.
Companies act like the internet is infallible and constant. I lost the internet multiple times in the last six months, and the number of things I couldn’t do because someone made it require Internet access was frustrating.
fmmmlee
I think of these AI tools as assistants (but dumber), and that informs best practice of how they should be used.
Like, if I’m sitting at my desk and need to write something, I grab a pencil. It’s right there.
It’s *slower* for me to ask the (hypothetical) human assistant “hey man can you hand me that pencil” than it is for me to just pick it up myself.
That’s the start menu for me. If I’m looking for something I don’t use often, sure I’ll ask my assistant, but most simple tasks it’s going to be faster to do it myself because muscle memory will always be faster than asking for something.
Maybe with really good telemetry and data analysis the assistant can predict what I want to do, just like a human assistant might simply hand the pencil to me before I even look up to ask for it, but I’m not sure how comfortable people will be with the level of data collection required to actually make the predictive actions any good.
Chogo82
Most products iterate in a better, faster, more user friendly direction. Microsoft likes to iterate in a slower, more bloat, must frustrating for the user direction. It’s up to the community to come up with ways clean up their BS-OS so it’s not entirely unusable.
m0rl0ck1996
And we as windows users will go to even more extreme efforts to counter the incruftation of our operating system of choice.
When will these fuckwits learn that the job of an operating system is to just get the hell out of the way and run user preferred applications.
But i guess that would interfere with their data theft business.
Preeminator
Someone needs to remind Microsoft about their past failures. What kind of asinine principals is Microsoft built on? And then they wonder why so few of their customers actually trust them.
Sloth_Monk
Knowing Microsoft this will be internet-based, can’t wait for the bugs & issues when it can’t connect cause my isp is crapping out again and all I want to do is find a local file
CharacterGur5614
Windows 12? Have they figured how to make a bug free windows explorer yet?
chili_ladder
If it’s anything like the current Copilot, Windows is in big trouble.
gsterr
NOOOOOOO
ManicChad
Hell no.
TheLawbringing
We can’t just have a simple feature, no that’s too easy, make it this stupid fucking AI that will do what the normal start button can do but 10x slower and wrong
matt-is-sad
I know it’s such a cliche overreaction to say you’re switching to linux every time windows does something you hate, but honestly this is the one situation where I’d absolutely make the switch once windows 11 loses support
BleaKrytE
Windows 11 start menu already sucks, especially the search function what with it suggesting internet results.
Don’t make it worse.
THROBBINW00D
jesus christ man no, just fucking no
ThatNormalBunny
Microsoft continuing to reinforce my decision to move to Pop! OS after Windows 11. I don’t like the idea of AI being fully integrated with my OS
hjadams123
They just never learn. Just leave the Start button alone.
Alieoh
Oh hell no
HiddeHandel
can we just get the windows 7 search back like that one kind off worked….
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Guess I’ll be sticking to Windows 10 then. It’s already hard enough stopping the Windows 10 telemetry. Making the start button linked to some AI will likely break basic functionality of the OS if you disable it.
I remember when Canonical funded its Unity Desktop partially by allowing its start-menu to double as an Amazon affiliate search tool. People basically rioted. People that *didn’t* use Unity rioted.
This is 1000x worse than that. I hate it and hope the quote is just taken out of context. I haven’t used Windows in years and this idea that regular people searching *THEIR OWN MACHINE* will ping-home to Microsoft and alter their ad-profiles still makes me sick, blech.
I’ll stay on Windows 10 until I die.
Satya, my brother in christ I just want a list of applications and a search bar.
sweet, another massive spyware….i’ll stay on W11.
ohno
Please no…just don’t.
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How about no. Microsoft can fuck right off with this bullshit.
Hopefully this is a load of crap. A list is far more useful than an AI for opening software that’s installed. Saying that I still mostly just add shortcuts to my desktop and only use the start menu for the stuff that hardly ever gets used.
Shoehorning AI into everything isn’t the best use for it.
Microsoft is doing their part to support the year of the Linux desktop. Are you?
Because the last time they removed the start button it worked so well
How do I know what I have installed?
Microsoft back at trying to mess with the start button I see….
I really, really want to know who is it that keeps suggesting these shits and what the argument is behind it. Is it someone on marketing? Is it an executive?
No way in hell it’s an engineer.
JFC can someone at Microsoft talk some sense in whoever is making those decisions what the user actually wants?
I’m sure if older OS never became unsupported people would run them because they did what people needed them to do, hell the adage is such for a reason – if it’s not broken, don’t fix it.
They want windows to become a reason to use a computer instead of a mean to use programs.
I just want windows to launch programs and to just, not more, JUST so what i want and never, ever get in the way. Eg: The search function interrogating bing by default it just garbage to me. I don’t need an AI assistant to launch Premiere Pro or search google map for me. I’m lazy but i’m not that lazy.
That operating system have no value on its own, and i’m not asking for more.
LINUX IS MY LORD AND SAVIOR
Cool, let’s add “Microsoft Windows” to the list of things that won’t work when the internet is out.
Companies act like the internet is infallible and constant. I lost the internet multiple times in the last six months, and the number of things I couldn’t do because someone made it require Internet access was frustrating.
I think of these AI tools as assistants (but dumber), and that informs best practice of how they should be used.
Like, if I’m sitting at my desk and need to write something, I grab a pencil. It’s right there.
It’s *slower* for me to ask the (hypothetical) human assistant “hey man can you hand me that pencil” than it is for me to just pick it up myself.
That’s the start menu for me. If I’m looking for something I don’t use often, sure I’ll ask my assistant, but most simple tasks it’s going to be faster to do it myself because muscle memory will always be faster than asking for something.
Maybe with really good telemetry and data analysis the assistant can predict what I want to do, just like a human assistant might simply hand the pencil to me before I even look up to ask for it, but I’m not sure how comfortable people will be with the level of data collection required to actually make the predictive actions any good.
Most products iterate in a better, faster, more user friendly direction. Microsoft likes to iterate in a slower, more bloat, must frustrating for the user direction. It’s up to the community to come up with ways clean up their BS-OS so it’s not entirely unusable.
And we as windows users will go to even more extreme efforts to counter the incruftation of our operating system of choice.
When will these fuckwits learn that the job of an operating system is to just get the hell out of the way and run user preferred applications.
But i guess that would interfere with their data theft business.
Someone needs to remind Microsoft about their past failures. What kind of asinine principals is Microsoft built on? And then they wonder why so few of their customers actually trust them.
Knowing Microsoft this will be internet-based, can’t wait for the bugs & issues when it can’t connect cause my isp is crapping out again and all I want to do is find a local file
Windows 12? Have they figured how to make a bug free windows explorer yet?
If it’s anything like the current Copilot, Windows is in big trouble.
NOOOOOOO
Hell no.
We can’t just have a simple feature, no that’s too easy, make it this stupid fucking AI that will do what the normal start button can do but 10x slower and wrong
I know it’s such a cliche overreaction to say you’re switching to linux every time windows does something you hate, but honestly this is the one situation where I’d absolutely make the switch once windows 11 loses support
Windows 11 start menu already sucks, especially the search function what with it suggesting internet results.
Don’t make it worse.
jesus christ man no, just fucking no
Microsoft continuing to reinforce my decision to move to Pop! OS after Windows 11. I don’t like the idea of AI being fully integrated with my OS
They just never learn. Just leave the Start button alone.
Oh hell no
can we just get the windows 7 search back like that one kind off worked….